Why is AMD the Budget Option for Gamers?

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  • Jarkko Nikula
    Jarkko Nikula 25 daqiqa oldin

    Anthony is cool :D

  • Muhammad Aizat Che Azemi

    Good, now compate it to a 750 dollar Mac

  • bulubuloa
    bulubuloa 5 soat oldin

    Awesome video, hope you do for a little higher market segment (i5 9600 (k) and Ryzen 7 2700 (X) )

  • Ponlets
    Ponlets 7 soat oldin

    1:20 is video start

  • Forster Dave 43
    Forster Dave 43 11 soat oldin

    what would be cool , is if you could build a virtual pc with all the components you wanted . and see how it reforms... you guys would of tested enough pcs over the year to be able to do that.. :) love ya linus..

  • SmartFool24
    SmartFool24 11 soat oldin

    $1500 budget would be cool

  • Luke Grim
    Luke Grim 12 soat oldin

    It seems negligibly close. The average gamer isn't really going to notice a difference between 68 and 75 fps

  • Andrea Padilla
    Andrea Padilla 14 soat oldin

    Definitely would love to see a video like this but focusing on the high end processors

  • Shadow Walker
    Shadow Walker 15 soat oldin

    If you only have $750 to spend you really should watch for deals and snag your GPU used off of Ebay, you could slaughter these builds for that price point. I just slayed these for less that $700 last week for a customer build with much higher specs that performs better than these.

  • Shawn Orichefsky
    Shawn Orichefsky 16 soat oldin

    Awesome video, would love to see more like this! Both Linus and Anthony were both fun in this video. :) I can see this helping people with their builds

  • Omnorimli
    Omnorimli 17 soat oldin

    I pay for electricity.... how does this add to the equation?

  • De Do
    De Do 20 soat oldin

    Who actually dislikes these videos? C’mon people

  • Uncultured Barbarian
    Uncultured Barbarian 20 soat oldin

    loved this. more of these plz

    YOUTUBE ANJING Kun oldin

    don't forget power consumption for each system, since electric bill uses real money

  • Lieberdk
    Lieberdk Kun oldin

    Linus ffs. Ones again you need to include, that EU citizens cant follow these "words". AMD and INTEL or almost just as expensive, so those advice or whatever i am to call, it rather useless for those living in Europe. If it is cheaper in europe it is so little that that no matter what INTEL would still be most value for your money. I get it that it is cheaper in US and canada, i KNOW it is, but in europe there is a bigger tax than EU & canada, we are litterally paying extra to give it to the CANCER called Europe Union. This is why every country and citizens in Europe should force the politicians to give this shitty cancer shit up! Follow the british who were clever enough to get the hell out of EU! EU = much more expensive in taxes = Much more expensive to buy stuff = the only ones who gain from this is the paycheck the politicians gets.

  • D'oh Nuts
    D'oh Nuts Kun oldin

    Compare motherboads. I wants to build a PC and Motherboards come in a huge price difference. Do the cheaper one have a worse performance?

  • Jkwan
    Jkwan Kun oldin

    These results are true if you are strictly gaming but ryzen definitely benefits from the extra cores and threads if you are doing anything else or gaming and streaming

  • palindari
    palindari Kun oldin

    Try making a balls out Intel v. AMD - then compare bang-for-buck comparisons... that is if you haven't already...

  • Felipe Andrade
    Felipe Andrade Kun oldin +1

    Other price points would be great. Another good one would be for other uses too, like content creators or science/engineering stuff. There is a lot of IT/engineering students and new content creators trying to maximize bang for a buck but they don't have any idea.

  • Cam P
    Cam P Kun oldin

    Should've checked professional performance as well

  • NvrUseYur RealName
    NvrUseYur RealName Kun oldin

    ...So confused. He said the Intel Core i5-8400(6 cores @ 2.8GHz) is "more powerful" than the AMD Ryzen 5 2600(6 cores @ 3.4GHz).... HOW?
    I'm admittedly way behind on processors(& a lot of PC hardware these days), but that just seems like a REALLY big difference to me & in the opposite direction from his statement. ...So, yea, what on Earth am I missing? Someone explain it to me please & thank you so much. :/

  • Kashif Riley
    Kashif Riley Kun oldin

    I'm actually getting an AMD Ryzen 2950X for my new build and the value was so good it allowed me to get more NvMe SSD and more memory

  • Planet Random
    Planet Random Kun oldin

    I Love how Linus was bitching with the hp 360 and saying how bad it was but he’s using it in this video, and a few months back saying how bad apple was, but Tweets from an iPhone. Linus, you’re full of shit and everyone knows it

  • Gupinder Momi
    Gupinder Momi Kun oldin

    What about quality over time? Which rig would last longer?

  • DennisTheGamer
    DennisTheGamer Kun oldin

    I was close to buying a i5 8400, but rather switched to a Ryzen 5 2600X, because of better benchmarks and I could get at a discount.

  • joseph bras
    joseph bras 2 kun oldin

    could it be possible you sugest me a configuration for at maximum 1000 dolars pc tower. games are not important, but the quality of the material are. it should run at least for 5 years. its purpuse is downloading media and watching video at in 4 k at 1gps speed. i think it shoul have a dedicate video card for not put that efort in the cpu. not overclocked, the motherbord sould have the latest wifi conection avaible.

  • Birdy Reene
    Birdy Reene 2 kun oldin

    I love these videos and it was neat seeing what they put together with a 750 dollar budget, but im curious fps benchmark wise how well both these builds in this video would do on poorly optimized games on a populated Rust server or Conan exiles server. I can torture my moldy potato of a pc all day long with csgo at around 55 fps on medium settings. but if I fire up rust, even if I run it on potato setting. with all its other optional settings as low as they can possibly go, I get 12 to 22 fps tops X_x and 30 in conan exiles. So im really curious how well either of these budget builds they showed in this video would run rust at low and medium settings.

  • Gullraiz Nadeem
    Gullraiz Nadeem 2 kun oldin

    Do one for content creation PCs

  • Wesley Beason
    Wesley Beason 2 kun oldin

    Do more videos like this, really gave true data for when your buying computer parts online. Thanks for the video.

  • Sam C
    Sam C 2 kun oldin +1

    really enjoyed this type of video. More chill, good information and well presented without being over the top.

  • Maaxiim
    Maaxiim 2 kun oldin

    My fx 4300 still runs, but I'll upgrade to a 2600 or 3600 depending on their release

  • Marsted Roashmallows
    Marsted Roashmallows 2 kun oldin

    I'd like to see this comparison again at $500 with the amd system using a amd gpu. I think that'd be somewhat fair because amd doesn't have competition for the rtx 20 series cards yet.

  • connostyper
    connostyper 3 kun oldin

    From me the situation is different. You can built an AMD system with high end motherboard that is cheper than Intel. Then cheap out on cpu for example 2600. AMD motherboards will support 3rd generation ryzen. You can upgrade later if needed.

  • Bud King
    Bud King 3 kun oldin

    Anthony, with the money you save buying AMD you can put towards fixing your hair.

  • Crimson Salmadin
    Crimson Salmadin 3 kun oldin +3

    The one thing that AMD has over Intel is the upgradeability of the CPU on current motherboards.

    • Stephen Voss
      Stephen Voss 23 soat oldin

      AMD has done a good job of upgradeability of cpus not just with AM4, but with AM2 and AM3(+). Also the cooling options tended to stay consistent with am2, not needing a new cooler because the socket design stayed the same for about 10 years from AM2 to mostly the same with am4

  • Valentin Dimitrov
    Valentin Dimitrov 3 kun oldin

    These types of videos are pure gold Linus.. oh and Anthony's build destroyed, I guess he is much more qualified :D

  • Derek Stinson
    Derek Stinson 3 kun oldin

    Anthony should have got a second try too.

  • JD Gaming
    JD Gaming 3 kun oldin

    upgrade the 2600 to a 1700 since you have 15$ more, also currently the 8400 is $199.99

  • Jasonoid
    Jasonoid 3 kun oldin

    Hoping to see what Ryzen 3000 does to the CPU market. Bring more competition from Intel? Let's hope so!

  • The Automaticist
    The Automaticist 3 kun oldin

    Can you redo this at around $1300 USD (about the value of the computer I built)

  • Deyvson Moutinho Caliman

    I don't know how CPU performance are these days, but in Nvidia against AMD when they sell similar performance graphic boards, the AMD ones already come overclocked, they spend more energy and have higher temperatures. So if you overclock Nvidia you can go further, put more load into it, because it's harder to make it overheat. I thought it would be the same with CPUs, but it seems that AMD is really up to par with Intel nowadays, although I would like to see CPU temperatures in those tests, those temperatures should be the same because if Intel had a lower temperature it could be overclocked more.

  • megadeth22885
    megadeth22885 3 kun oldin +1

    wtf is the "amd build" using a nvidia GPU?.. so this is just a CPU comparison then?

  • Chivokroy
    Chivokroy 3 kun oldin

    Science done right: "It certainly wasn't what we were expecting, but we're going with it."

  • Jigsaw
    Jigsaw 4 kun oldin

    Send me a gaming laptop and I'll draw an animal for you Linus.

  • DJJEZ1983
    DJJEZ1983 4 kun oldin

    Amd is for broke peasants. Change my mind

  • مقاطع مترجمة

    Does he change the video Title !! weird

  • Nick Schafer
    Nick Schafer 4 kun oldin

    I feel they cheated on AMD here. They adjusted the intel specs for something that can't be overclocked(While improving specs and saving cost) when in the first place of the video that one of their requirements was it HAD to be an overclockable CPU.

  • Suleman Zaidi
    Suleman Zaidi 4 kun oldin

    isn't the i3-8350k better than the i5-8400? Much higher base clock, even when the 8400 goes into turbo and plus its cheaper

  • UgLiest_handsome
    UgLiest_handsome 4 kun oldin

    $1250 budget plz

  • Nathan Gamble
    Nathan Gamble 4 kun oldin

    Well, they've got to do the same with AMD vs nVidia now.

  • haloguy32375
    haloguy32375 4 kun oldin

    the real question is, why cant linus hold expensive equipment without dropping it

  • Robert Therrien
    Robert Therrien 4 kun oldin

    When GPU are $1000. Then AMD processors are the best.

  • Paul Gariepy
    Paul Gariepy 4 kun oldin +5

    Linus you should do a AMD vs Intel reliability / compatibility shootout. One of the reasons I left AMD back in the Athlon days was the chipsets were buggy and the USB ports always seemed to have issues vs the Intel platforms. AKA which platform is more stable especially when we talk about AMD winning with overclocking.

    • Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon
      Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon Kun oldin

      +Ducky The Duck No way that will be true. Their 7 nm is kind of a marketing lie, only some parts of the CPU are 7nm and it doesn't affect the transistor density.

    • Ducky The Duck
      Ducky The Duck 2 kun oldin

      As a Ryzen 5 1500x owner that has a hard cap on overclocking at 4.2ghz, the 2000 series expandded this i can say that even the stock cooler ( the wraith spire) can get you to 4.2 but it will be hot, 85c hot and ryzen overclocking is stable at 75c and i get crashes from time to time, USB support is stellar, no issues with it at all, i honestly had more issues with intel based systems as with usb stability than this
      If you want to move to amd wait for ZEN 2/3000 series, they will ( according to the leaks and press shows from amd) have 20% more performance per core than any intel architecture so it will be an interesting thing to see if it actually is true

  • Fredrik Lindlöf
    Fredrik Lindlöf 5 kun oldin

    Something not mentioned in the video is value over time, I.E upgradability. Would love to see a video where they make approximations of each parts viable lifetime, and show plausible current and future upgradepaths and what the value preposition becomes then.

  • fmalone03
    fmalone03 5 kun oldin

    AMD also has a upgrade path. Intel regularly dumps support for current chipsets when they release a new CPU even though the performance gains are minimal and after a couple of years if you are looking for upgrades you will more than likely have to change your motherboard and CPU at once on Intel.

  • Anders Larsson
    Anders Larsson 5 kun oldin +1

    If it’s AMD vs Intel you have to go with an AMD GPU ;)

  • Pure Gameplay
    Pure Gameplay 5 kun oldin

    LOL american prices are seriously FUCKED. In Canada, I3 8350k is $320+ and the ryzen 5 2600 is $230, Come to Canada and you'll definitely see the price to performance that AMD has over swagtel. Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600x shit all over the I3 and cost 30% less, its literally a no brainer. The real title of this video should be, "Why does everyone like to be shit on by Intel"

  • Pure Gameplay
    Pure Gameplay 5 kun oldin

    Its not the budget option, is the logical option. Thats like saying every bag other than gucci is just a budget bag, when in reality some shit is just overpriced swag trash.

    DAVID L CARTER 5 kun oldin

    I knew big man would win this challenge,,, can you guys do the same thing with a 5 gpu mining rig?? THAT WOULD BE COOL

    DAVID L CARTER 5 kun oldin

    I have no reason to change and I am sticking with AMD

    DAVID L CARTER 5 kun oldin

    llinus AMD is for smart people like me that want the best for my money ,,I build miners and I am glad I bought the right RX590 NITRO cards for my miners and they work great and I see Nvidia trying to keep up with the 200 to 250 usd cards and I am glad to see the MH/z clock listings recently

  • Manuel Jurado
    Manuel Jurado 5 kun oldin

    One of your best video ever!: Great content, fantastic presentation and awesome execution.
    Please do this comparison for at least a couple of budgets more.

  • Fran
    Fran 5 kun oldin +1

    You are using liquid cooling, which wasn't in none of the lists 🤦

    • AndreasRiborg
      AndreasRiborg 4 kun oldin

      I know right, lets see the overclocking in the actual budget case

  • Ashley Perkins
    Ashley Perkins 5 kun oldin

    so he cheated by putting a non amd graphics card in the amd build....

    • Devolve
      Devolve 13 soat oldin

      LOL well then Linus cheated too it's not an intel gpu... Derp

  • SanityDragon
    SanityDragon 5 kun oldin

    Productivity would also be interesting as i'm guessing the intel chip would win in premiere (quicksync) but the Ryzen chip would smash rendering? Nice video; worth a part 2 for productivity and then an all round balance?

  • Elbert Joseph Layco
    Elbert Joseph Layco 5 kun oldin

    For $750, i see there's a little bit of value difference. Will that increase/decrease based on the cost range like at $500 or even $1000?

  • furyp100
    furyp100 5 kun oldin

    I think it would be more reasonable to just compare motherboard and cpu prices since cases, psu, ram, and gpu doesn't matter for amd vs intel comparisons

  • Сука Блять
    Сука Блять 5 kun oldin

    So basically AMD is better no matter how you try to spin it. Just Linus is an intel-shill and can’t bring himself to outright admit that fact.

  • roddybrod
    roddybrod 5 kun oldin

    Really loved this video! I've got plenty of friends making commitments to PC Gaming and this is a great introduction to budgeting their systems out! I really would have wished that you mentioned something about an i7's value proposition for this budget as I feel like many people automatically jump to them.

  • Matthew Langley
    Matthew Langley 5 kun oldin

    Honestly AMD (right now the 2700x) at the just below top end gaming machine is the top pick IMHO. Especially if you're looking at 1440p or greater where the advantages of a 9700k or 9900k diminish greatly do to being GPU bound, and what does that cheaper price on the AMD get you? A serious upgrade to GPU. For example the 2700x is regularly $310, but it also goes down quite a bit by $10-$20 less, even more commonly you can get some killer combo deals on newegg with a great MB or RAM and get anywhere from $20-$50 off. Likewise you get a pretty good stock cooler with it, often compared to say a $40-$50 aftermarket cooler. The 9700k is $420 and no cooler. all this plus cheaper motherboard options (that you can also get at some great deals or combo deals) typically means you can net about $150-$200 savings going 2700x and the 9700k is only a minimal amount better on CPU bound games, usually at 1080p, and usually no faster at 1440p or greater. Likewise multicore is a toss up between the two, 16 vs 8 threads in the AMD camp nets you some wins in some cases, while the 9700k with equal cores and higher clockspeeds nets you in some others. That $200 or so dollars will add a massive amount to your gaming results if applied either towards a GPU, a good monitor, or honestly to something else. Again 1440p you lost a couple FPS (and maybe none at all) but getter more FPS in GPU, higher refresh or better image quality in a better monitor, or maybe something like a better keyboard, mouse, headset, better chair, desk, faster drives, more high speed drives so you install less etc.

    Honestly unless you are either beyond having a budget at all (even if you have deep pockets) or you just need to get to that 240 fps in 1080p games (say an aspiring FPS pro or something) it just doesn't make sense, the price difference for the limited gain is just too much. There are countless ways to improve your gaming experience even if you've been dropping it like it's hot on components. Even then you can take that extra money that won't really benefit you much and spend them on games or software if nothing else. My wife and I got a set of 1080 tis for our gaming rigs last year (and for context I'm running a caselabs case so don't mind spending extra money for the quality)... this year when we upgrade CPU we could have dropped more on a 9700k or even a 9900k, but I just couldn't justify it. It really just doesn't add up unless we basically had an almost unlimited budget for our rigs and all of our gaming equipment and games.

    Just my opinion though.

  • Gerrard Harvey
    Gerrard Harvey 5 kun oldin

    +Linus random question: why do I get the Video_scheduler_internal_error BSOD and how do I fix it? After all I tried it appears it is related to graphics card driver or hardware but I'm not sure which. I don't have a second gfx card to test. I do know that with the gfx driver completely removed using DDU, it doesn't crash. But as soon as Windows update auto installs the driver, it crashes.

  • Nazar Andriyuk
    Nazar Andriyuk 5 kun oldin +1

    1500 price point

  • EagleClaw1842
    EagleClaw1842 5 kun oldin

    i feel bad for that chair

  • Cbeddoe19
    Cbeddoe19 5 kun oldin

    Because its way cheaper and you can upgrade old motherboards with new processors.
    Or you can buy older products for dirt friggin cheap. That little performance penalty isn't worth 2-3x the money for most people

  • Bryce Stewart
    Bryce Stewart 5 kun oldin

    $750 for a gaming rig, don't thing so. A grand or two for sure!!!

  • LittleDooKidle
    LittleDooKidle 5 kun oldin

    Poor people? Im still using the FX 8350

  • Nicholas Ebbing
    Nicholas Ebbing 5 kun oldin

    I still remember Luke, man. I do like the new people though.

  • Unicorn Diarrhea
    Unicorn Diarrhea 5 kun oldin

    More videos with Anthony! I like that guy.

  • Farva
    Farva 5 kun oldin

    AMD always

  • Daniel Pérez
    Daniel Pérez 5 kun oldin

    This was easy more informative and interesting than I was expecting! Thanks for this!

  • ared18t
    ared18t 5 kun oldin

    Hey it's the Linux guy. :D

  • The TNTsheep
    The TNTsheep 5 kun oldin +21

    An important thing to consider for budget gamers is that AM4 will be compatible with new CPUs for the foreseeable future, while the Intel chipsets can be expected to run away before you can say 'WAIITTTTT!..."

    • bulubuloa
      bulubuloa 5 soat oldin

      good luck with waiting Mobo manufacture to release BIOS for 4 5 year-old motherboard.

    • Nathan Gamble
      Nathan Gamble 4 kun oldin +1

      "AM4 will be compatible with new CPUs for the foreseeable future"
      Next generation (Zen 2) yes, but beyond that probably not, outside of the low-end.

  • rx10
    rx10 5 kun oldin

    2:23 I hope his health is a concern of LMG. He clearly needs help

  • oddeda
    oddeda 5 kun oldin

    I was thinking AMD would be much better.
    To tell you the truth, for lees than 2% performance, I would not OC and stick to Intel with its better stability.

  • MrDeathknight1
    MrDeathknight1 5 kun oldin

    I've been looking at lap tops for a few games for under 450 and then at 300 pounds which had been intresting refebs the way to go on 300 pound budget but new amd was the way at 450 2500u and on board gpu blasts Intel for game performance from what I can tell on reading on line

  • James Neave
    James Neave 6 kun oldin

    Also, it kinda shows that CPU is largely irrelevant outside of workstation loads.

  • James Neave
    James Neave 6 kun oldin +1

    With the standardisation of 8 cores on the major console platforms, have engines and games been optimized for 8 threads or cores?
    In stock case, AMD would have a clear advantage.

  • Dunix 16
    Dunix 16 6 kun oldin

    I have a i5 8400 its very good

  • Chaosbud Gaming
    Chaosbud Gaming 6 kun oldin

    I have the 8400 with a 1060 6gb and have been so far very happy with my performance. Figure by Christmas I'll try to do some upgrades

  • gr82bAnAUTiger
    gr82bAnAUTiger 6 kun oldin

    Personally I think it's silly to hold yourself to such a tight budget on something like a PC purchase which should last you 3-5 years especially on the CPU side. An 8700k vs 2700x build is a lot more interesting to me, as they should be fairly similar in prices. The 8700k would win in gaming and the 2700x in productivity while the 8700k system would be about $75-$100 more for the processor (if you can get it at $330 which it goes on sale for all the time) and overclocking board, over 3 years that's like $2.50-$3.00 a month difference. I would also advise a SSD at minimum for boot drive with your primary game on it to reduce texture load times and give a much better experience.

  • TJ Max
    TJ Max 6 kun oldin

    Fun thing. Here in Europe (Serbia) 2060 is around 500$ so this doesn't do us any good lol

  • Razorize
    Razorize 6 kun oldin

    now stream with the same systems and you will easily be able to stream better with amd than intel

  • Nikola Miladinovic
    Nikola Miladinovic 6 kun oldin

    You are so miserable with these f*****g commercials, just like every other channel

  • Beep
    Beep 6 kun oldin +1

    I also had the budget of 750.
    But i have to buy monitor, cpu case and keyboard and mouse in that budget.

    • Aye Mossum
      Aye Mossum 4 kun oldin +1

      I took my time and bought everything on sale and/or with rebates. My final cost on my PC (no monitor/keyboard/mouse) Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB 3000MHz RAM, RX 570 8GB, B450 mobo, Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD, $620. Took me about 4-6 months to build though....

  • Richardo Otros
    Richardo Otros 6 kun oldin

    What laptop is Antoni using?

  • Gameplay and Talk
    Gameplay and Talk 6 kun oldin

    This was a fun concept. I was honestly surprised both came out so even, roughly. I'd definitely like to see future videos comparing other price points.

  • Finchnz
    Finchnz 6 kun oldin

    This was really good, I am still running a 4970k and its good to see where each team is going in regards to a setup that is middle of the road.

  • Bound4Earth
    Bound4Earth 6 kun oldin

    Rosewill PSU, HAHA.

  • Excellion123
    Excellion123 6 kun oldin

    Vega56 would have been a much better choice than rtx 2060

  • F0110W3R '
    F0110W3R ' 6 kun oldin

    FX processors anyone! Yeah, it's kinda sad I switched to a Ryzen 5 1500x when it came out. I discount on it from Newegg, so it was cheaper than Intel's current offerings. Once I got that I just slapped it into a cheap b350 and I was good to go!