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you can't plan in bjj because of the injuries I was so ambitious then outta nowhere I hurt my knee and now I am on and off training, but before the injury I was training 5 days a week
Great video mate
Satori Awakening thank you
Where can we listen to your podcast?
Kit....so wouldnt this be sequence training that you are referring too..when u brought up the math it made me think sequence..
Brandon Kain I’m not following! Can you elaborate?
I agree with Kit on the point of learning the formula over learning an answer to every equation. And in my training the most progress I’ve had was when a guiding principle of the position as a whole was explained to me and cue are explained to develop habits. For example I struggled with the half guard for a long time until a simple cue was explained to me that allowed me to focus on watching only that cue and let my habit part of the brain do the rest. However, where I disagree is the part about drilling, because I think this is a good way to develop habits to respond to a cue when you see it without thinking about. Anyway, met Kit several times over the years during the tournament and he’s an awesome guy and definitely and phenomenal thing to happen to Australian bjj.
I learn best when I'm sexually aroused...
how come wresteling is still better than bjj?
kungfujoe no! I started wrestling a couple years ago and I love it
+Kit Dale did you come from wrestling? (in europ judo the biggest grapling art done a little of that and i love trowing ppl)
kungfujoe more enjoyable
Good on ya with the podcast brother you’ll do really well and you’re an interesting bloke !! Observation : you’re gonna need a chiropractor if you keep that posture .
This makes sense but how do I find a bjj school that trains that way? I just started bjj and I'm finding myself saying/asking 'that's awesome but why did I do that?'
This goes for all true martial art schools .
I dont understand this. Trial and error means practice i.e. rolling / sparring etc. It is normal in every field to first learn the theory and then try to do the stuff practically. This is the tried and tested proven method of developing your skillset in any field. Now if you never read the theory and just went through it via trial and error you will eventually find a way but this process will be slow (because you are discarding the knowledge accumulated over many many years by people that should give you a head start) and there is definitely a danger that you will develop bad habits and technique which might become impossible to undo. The theory is to teach you the correct technique it is not the be all or end all and might not work for all but works for most.
+Kit Dale Thanks a lot man. Really looking forward to this video.
Successful Internet Psychologist yes! I will also do a video about this for you!
+Kit Dale Just saw it :). It is exactly what I was looking for and much more. It makes complete sense to me. Problem is in my situation (where it is a typical bjj school setup) how I follow this approach. I guess when I spar I put myself in the positions I want to focus on and then via trial and error find counters to them that would be effective. Or I do sessions outside of the classes.
Successful Internet Psychologist watch my video on how to structure a jiu jitsu class! I speak about all of this! I think you will enjoy it
+Kit Dale Sorry for confusing things. Can you give me an example or do you have any videos where you demonstrate this. What I am keen to understand is what the formula is and how you apply it. Is this universal i.e. some fundamentals on top of which they build their techniques based on their physical and mental attributes or can the formula itself be different from student to student and this is something you work out with your students?Really keen to understand this. By the way I 100% agree with your general point i.e. the structure in a typical bjj class is not really that good. It's warm ups, drills with a bit of theory and then just sparring. The drills we do are just repetitions i.e. low resistance. We find that in sparring if we try the drill it never works for us. What I think there should be more of are full intensity situational based drills e.g. start from side control. Guy at the top is practicing technique to maintain side control and the guy at the bottom is practicing different techniques of getting out of side control. If he gets out you start again and after x amount of time doing that the guys switch. You could do this with any number of positions. I personally find this very, very focused and useful but we rarely ever do it.
Simple answer to this one. It takes so long to be a blackbelt because most gyms are full of meatheads and thugs (even the coach sometimes may be included in this category), who go all blast on each other (especially against lighter guys). The result of this is that people get injured and tired. Rolling should not be the most important thing at a gym.
Bodhi N hmmm I don’t know if I agree with you on this! I’ve trained all around the world. And jiu jitsu is definitely not a thuggish sport! Maybe 2% of the people I’ve rolled with would fit that category. You may have jiu found a very bad spot to train. In saying that, free rolling is very important! In saying that there is a difference between competition rounds, and just Norway ones. But I don’t suggest people roll to lose. But also not roll like it’s the mundials
That’s not how the SM7B should be positioned
J. Flo Video Productions rookie error! Someone told me since this video! Now the podcast sound is much better
Didn't you tap to a guillotine like a blue belt against Garry Tonon? Maybe you need 10-15 years for a reason.
that's actually not true. just because you have a formula, doesn't mean you can work out all the equations. some problems are very tough and require a leap in logic or creative thinking to arrive at an answer. in fact some problems have meaningless solutions whereas others have no solutions. I don't know how true this is with regards to jiu jitsu but math does have a very strange side to it which is rarely discussed.
Full-time job? What full-time job do you have, Kitten Dale??
Black belts in BJJ are not earned. They tend to be awarded and it also depends on the school awarding.
bighands69 yeah I agree with you there! I think the belts don’t really say too much! I’ve trained with black belts that shouldn’t be black belts. And I’ve trained with Browns that should be! But when I talk about getting a black belt. I mean it in the sense that they’re an expert in jiu jitsu! Not just someone who got an undeserved black belt!
+Kit Dale Here is my two cent/pence worth. I might be completely wrong in this. I think there should only really be 3 grades. White, Blue (random color) and black. Each of these grades really should indicate a the level of competition that a person faces. White should be for those at novice levels, Blue for those at regional and higher local competition level, Black should be reserved for those at the highest level of competition. The color really should be to allow people to see what level of competition a person is at and not for how technical their knowledge is. Technical knowledge should really be about level of coaching and should have nothing to do with belt color. I would say if this was the case most coaches would probably fall into blue level. The current BJJ grading system is a mess with no two belt colors really meaning anything. I am sure there people out there with black belts in BJJ that are no where near people level of expectation.
+Kit Dale In BJJ black belts are not earned through an organisation structure like in Judo. BJJ is made up of thousands of Schools around the world. Most BJJ black belts are awarded by the school and not earned through an open system. No two belts are the same between different schools even if they are colored the same.
bighands69 that’s not entirely correct! Some schools may be like that but most are definitely earned. I had to win blue, purple worlds one year after another then silver at brown belt worlds to get my black belt
I started BJJ about 3 months ago. What I noticed was that we would start our lessons with somersaults, which made me dizzy. Then with my luck we would drill some chokes couple times, which made me even more dizzy. And after that finish up the lesson with some 200 pound guy sitting on my stomach during spar. After the lesson my mind was always completely blank, feeling lucky just to be alive. But for the life of me, I couldn't remember any of the techniques. After month or so, I realized that this can't go on like this. So I started looking up positions and techniques from youtube and other places in the internet. Then I tried to applying those during spar. At first with little success. But with every failure I was thinking "why my technique didn't work as I planned? what went wrong?". With that in mind I drilled them more with my girlfriend at home. Then something changed, and I started to make some progress and tap some people out during spars. I'm not saying I'm ready to take on a black belt now, but that I noticed too that you can affect your learning rate, even in a short time span.
Most BJJ is not run that well. It does not take into account the beginner and puts too much emphasis on mixed classes. The rolls in BJJ do not make much sense either. I think they come from judo which happens to have a strong stand up component and throws.
Why the hell are you sitting like that? I thought you were going to sing to me! It is my birthday, after all. Jui jitsu is dynamic. The boss will give you the belt when you are ready...and after you rep it a thousand times and then some. Seriously though, you are a singer. I can tell. Sweep him and mount him, then hit that C5, tenor brother! Don´t deny your true calling.
Ananda Mañana lolol
The answer it easy; because it's Hard.
This is exact problem I have with BJJ teachers, put your leg here, put your arm here etc etc
Andrew Rai yep
Hi Kit, I like your approach to learning, but as you know, most academy's would be run the same way, ie. warm up, drilling, sparring. Can't we still find value in learning the techniques while drilling them if we are focusing on the underlying principles and concepts that make each technique work?
Kyle G yes! But in my opinion you don’t want to pre-shape techniques. You want the movement to be organic! Drilling would take away from that and make it pre shaped making you predictable!
5x a week is still alot
Marc Ritorto i say at most! And that’s not a lot in proffesional terms
I agree 100%. In fact, to me, your own creativity is what makes bjj the most fun and interesting
You could say that about any sport.
Its stimuli-reaction vs concept learning
I'm sexually aroused. Is that wrong too?
GoWithTheFlow if it’s wrong I don’t want to be right
Kit, you could be an outlier and a special case. The question is: are you able to replicate your experience and produce multiple blackbelts and world class competitors in under 4 years?
Leinil Francis Yu easily
Full time job, 6 days a week bjj 2x a day plus bodybuilding/powerlifting 7 days a week before practice. It’s not easy nor do I enjoy it but it’s a must if I want to succeed. Plus for those struggling, everyone starts from the bottom all you have to do is keep training and one day your hard work will pay off guys don’t give up.
HallowayMMA oh dude trust me if I don’t go to then gym and practice after, I’m sad and I beat myself up, there are people out there specially in the veterans world who have disabilities that get out there and get work done and here I am wanting a day off, I can’t be lazy you know how it is no better feeling then pushing your self to be better both on and off the mats keep it up brotha
Harout Demirjian i’m in the same boat but i love it. Part of my lifestyle. If i miss class or the gym i’m depressed but after a difficult bjj class, u know the feeling.
Marc Ritorto it doesn’t matter I was training (when not deployed or in the field) the same when I was in the marine corps, it’s a mindset either you want it or don’t
Ok not a normal office job like the avg guy. Thats why
Marc Ritorto overnight security/bodyguard ig
Because we can't al be BJ Penn. That's why.
I think I get what you mean but your articulation may just be weird. Learning through trial and error is a long winded approach as well but per the same example you gave, if you have a teacher that gives you the formula, you can use that to actively solve whatever problem you have to address. That is what I think you mean by trial and error. I may be wrong about that interpretation but maybe you could inform me better.
Imperial X your question is a little hard to follow. Can you re word that?
so you don't have a 10 year old kid teaching you
It’s a business Kit. If you have out a black belt every 4 years the students would start their own school
stephen Dan LOL wat... Khabib trained combat sambo.. that’s far different from Judo. Many of his takedowns are wrestling based like his single leg and high crotch. In judo they made it illegal to grab the legs because wrestlers were coming into judo tournaments with the gi on and ragdolling them so they literally had to change the rules of the sport. Lets be reasonable... every single person in MMA trains jiu jitsu And has to know jiu jitsu... There’s virtually no MMA fighters who train Judo. 1. Cormier - no judo (trains BJJ and has many submissions)2. Jones - no judo (trains BJJ and is a blue belt and has many submissions. Said it’s his goal to get a black belt in BJJ)3. GSP - black belt in BJJ4. Woodley - got his black belt in BJJ after his last fight when he subbed Darren Till5. Khabib - combat sambo/wrestling - if you wanna call that judo lol okay6. Max Holloway - black belt in bjj7. TJ Dillashaw - trains bjj and is blue belt8. Demetrious Johnson - Brown belt in bjj I can’t believe it’s 2019 and we’re having this discussion. Go watch the early UFCs to see who jiu jitsu guys and wrestlers did to judokas.Secondly you mentioned “aikido” in your post as an effective martial art over BJJ lol. You’re a moron.
Tim Hanselbach and what happens if you get into a street fight against a college wrestler? Judo banned grabbing the legs for takedowns because wrestlers were coming in and winning judo tournaments. You’ll get taken down and go to turtle position like judokas usually do then get pounded out. Listen... there’s a reason there’s virtually no judokas in MMA in comparison to wrestlers/BJJ. If I’m wearing shorts and a T-shirt 95% of your training goes out the window.
All the butthurt Judo players in here. lol. Judo works great until you hit the ground or get elbowed in the face. Then you’re fucked.
+BigErn_Mccraken Most BJJ does not award match winning points for takedowns so it means there is no emphasis on the sport for stand up. Wrestling and Judo both have an emphasis on stand up and take down. Judo does have ground work and submissions only more limited than BJJ. BJJ competitors are not going to do that well from a standing position against a wrestler or Judo competitor. BJJ is more effective the ground but its problem is if a wrestler was to get the dominant position by gaining the control of the take down it means trouble for the BJJ competitor.
+Active Guard Judo ground game is focused on fast submissions. You don't roll around for hours in a street fight. Judoka have the submission basically as an extention of the throw . At the end of my Reverse-seoinage you are always in an othen-jime (bow and arrow choke), and at the end of my Utsurigoshi you are always in a Juji-gatame, before you catch your breath from the impact or gain orientation.It can be difficult to pull off in BJJ training because BJJlers tend to just jump on their asses when against a superior stand up fighter. Of course that would be dangerous in a street fight. Also in which situation would I need to defend against somebody who drops on their ass anyway? I get attacked by head-hunting thugs not by butt-scooting thugs.BJJ does one thing the best though: The focus on self-defense in the blue belt. BJJ puts self defense focus in the beginning and while I think that high level Judoka are able to defend themselves the best, I always advice ppl and especially women who ask me about self defense to do BJJ.
Ihave learned lots from you just watching .Thank you sir. :-)
What is trylo neuro??
Arman Kaliev I’m sorry I’m not following
Okay kit. I'll buy your DVD. But if you're lying I will find you and I will choke you.
Eddy the exact same way! Wrestling is much less complex tho! So I don’t think it would take as long to get great! In saying that I simplify wrestling as I don’t want to learn about pins and turnovers ect
+Eddy make a grappling DVD and I'll buy it. If I am not the mma champion in a few months then I'm finding you and inserting the DVD into your anus sideways. I train at home on my computer. I can do a rnc already too so shoving your janky DVD up your ass will be easy.
+Kit Dale Sup kitty. I train at Ryan Halls gym. And I'll buy your dumb DVD or whatever. My question to you is how did you get so good at wrestling with no wrestling background. Did you take the same approach with wrestling as you did with BJJ? Did you just bite down on your mouthpiece and take a couple of asswhoopings by college wrestlers until you eventually hacked it. I'm trying to get good at wrestling as well as become a berimbolo wizard
Eddy you better!!!!
What is a conservative cost of lessons from White to Black belt - only tuition alone, not including seminars, patches, et cetera ?
FujianXiamen Guo as in general? Everyone charges differently man
I dont really understand what this meansvto learn through trial and error instead of learning by practicing the techniques you coach shows you. If intuition were better than training then there would be no point in training. Im not arguing here, im sure there is a valid point in whats been said i just dont get what it is. He mentions an “algorithm” for passing the guard.... what does that mean, exactly? If i lock a total beginner in my guard without teachig him the techniques to be safe and to break out, it could take months before he even learns enough to give me a hard time.
Hunter Woltz j👌🏻👌🏻
I think you could boil it down to how he says it's more important to know WHY you're doing what you're doing instead of learning ways HOW to do it. So rather than saying okay here's being in someone's guard, and we're going to work on 3 or 4 techniques for getting out of it - you might also teach the mechanics and physiology behind what you're doing. Once you really understand that, you can apply it to a wider array of intuitive techniques to get into a better position. Movement is after all an intuitive process.
I see what youre saying now. You do seem to have an innovative approach to teaching. I hope i can stop by your gym some day. Thanks for the reply!
Haragei Lucid hi! Ok, first of all I would give people a lot more credit than that. It would not take anyone who does not have a learning disability long to figure out ways of opening the guard. You could for sure help him by giving him some principles on opening the guard or concepts. But to teach him techniques may help him in the short run but stunt him in the long run. As instead of relying on creativity and his own experience. He is relying on a technique that he imbedded into his muscle memory. Techniques can be countered easily! But knowing a concept of how to open guard allows you the ability to be more flexible with your application. Meaning you can discover multiple ways to open a guard rather than what techniques you have learned! When you teach someone a technique, it’s like showing them the cover of a book. When they discover one it’s like they wrote the book.
Haragei Lucid Even if you teach that beginner those techniques, they’re not always going to work, because you know a counter to those moves. So, maybe next time they pass your guard, they’re going to be alert for the the sweep/counter that you got them previously.
most of them theygive it for emotional reasons...or they like or dislike someone...i ve seen maaanyy people with skills and knowledge and the jealous teacher doesnt give it! Also seen maaany nobodys who dont have skills and knowledge and get it........Maybe in your case they respected your effort
Ρωμηός i won worlds blue, then purple, then silver at brown! That’s why I was graded
Brother, brother in God and Bjj, that you are talking about is my biggest problem! I am 202 m and 137 kg...and I lost 10 f@cking years in bullshits of other semilearned senseis... I have to start over in order to learn and doing things right. Right to me, to be useful to me, and have a logical path!
Nice video Kit. I really like your approach to learning BJJ. Thanks! Osssss
Training 5 times a week while holding a full time job is admirable
Personally I do 3-4. I could train 5, even with family and job obligations (even though my gym is an hour drive both ways), regardless, I’m getting a little older and if I train 5 days or more in a week I get so sore and mentally drained that my 5th session is usually lack luster. 3-4 is best for me, sometimes 3 is enough, sometimes I need that 4th day. My training sessions are 3 hours each, so I’m getting more mat time than most even in my 3-4 training sessions.
I’m emotionally aroused.
Adam Sowden lmao
You can replace the word "BJJ" by anything.
+Archil Zhvania Noooooo xD
Let's change "BJJ" by "BJ"
Man, that microphone is really in focus :)
Dave Lowenstein lmaoooooo fuck
You said you would start a podcast after the unknown strength project podcast which was amazing and I'm still listening again time to time and now you are doing your own podcast that's amazing ! Thanks for thinking outside the box relating to the martial art that we loves ! Take care and wish you the best in this new podcast project!
+Kit Dale what's your podcast called please?I would like to subscribe.
anthony FOUESNANT yes! Thank you! This is the start of it! I’m going to start doing interviews with people too
This analogy would make a lot more sense if math also relied on muscle memory and was time constrained to the extreme degree BJJ sparring/competition is.
My math teacher only gives me 6 minutes per equation, and i get points for working towards finishing my work. on exam day i only need to finish, no points for work shown. 😉
Frenk van Vlissingen math does! You have a short period of time to work out equations. The quicker you are at running the formulas the better you will do.
I like your philosophy on learning. My question is how does this approach work for the slow learner, unathletic or uncreative. I have to agree learning because a coach said so is kinda boring. I like the creative space of live sparing is that is the time I'm at my most creative.
kaikkimoi it’s up :)
+Kit Dale That is interesting to hear, could you possibly make a video about how you structure your classes with these 4 steps, like real examples how each step should and would look like?
+Kit Dale fundemental taught at our club is from standing up single leg, double and a few throws. Passing guard. Side control, mount, open guard closed guard, arm bar, kimora, a variety of chokes from different positions (gi and nogi chokes)and transitioning between the above from a variety of positions. We will also cover sweeps from a variety of positons. These will be broken up into a few techniques per class, then drills then specific sparing to try and nail the technique under partial then full pressure then review of tech then sparing. Like you said we notice the guys who are learn quickly so when they are mixed class/advanced class they get to roll with higher grades. I've noticed lesser and shorter road phase because of it.
tattoodrdoke I’m interested in your interpretation of fundamentals? As mine differ to most. Most view fundamentals as techniques, which is a fallacy. Techniques always change and none are fool proof! The only fool proof aspects of jiu jitsu are the principles. (Body mechanics, leverage) and concepts. All techniques are merely possible answers. That’s all
kaikkimoi I can’t imagine your teacher was teaching at all like me. I don’t just leave people to free roll lol. Or you would probably end up like those students in your example. My class is split into four sections, separated by Q&A’s. The first is the explanation phase. Where I talk about the position or movement we are going to work on. Then the experiment phase, where students experiment using my concepts or principles that I just taught. I heavily encourage the students to use my concepts but come up with their own application. Then the 3rd phase is the implementation phase. Where I create a specific training revolving around the newly looked at concepts. This allows the student a safe and encouraging exercise that allows them to practice what they have been experimenting with. Then the last is rounds of sparring for the students to work on what ever it is they want to.
Great principles, but in practice the way we learn is mostly out of our hands unless we find an instructor that uses trial and error. Plus there is a tradition of being hyper conservatives in belt promotions in jiu jitsu, and again it's not up to you.The fastest system in a regular gym would probably be to take as much privates as possible and ask the instructor to give you little hints on the right path out of a situation instead of teaching the whole technique
Rippiripper it is a tough situation! But you can do what I did! Just humour coaches. Don’t be disrespectful. But go back to what you were doing in the first place! As for belts. Well that’s not really the focus. It’s progression that I want. Not belts. Belts are just a bonus
the world needs more people like you .. you kick ass , take no bs, dont give a 💩what people say/think, unbelievably smart , and you share your knowledge from your experiences to help others! ♥️🙌🏼 who knew u were such a big deal huh? haha now i see why you have such a big following! well deserved
SundarBJJ now who's trying to get their swerve on? Lol I don't really say "swerve" just said it because u did .. it's nice to see people be nice to each other though so many people are out to get eachother these days it's rare to see a compliment 🙌🏼👍🏼😊
+Amy Bella Everyone loves Kit. He may be one of the only universally-liked people in the otherwise (unfortunately) highly-politicized BJJ world. He's a work in progress.
SundarBJJ I feel like I wish i never wrote my comment now 😂😂
SundarBJJ 😂not even
Amy Bella tryna get her swerve on.... 😎😀
but im very aroused when im drilling my honey hole
Awesome insight I'm 45 this year and my son started bjj a few months ago I have always trained stand up and over the past 15 years I have been doing a internal style with the same philosophy, my son wants me to train with him as I have always wanted to do bjj so your philosophy has just motivated me to try getting a black belt before I'm over the hill so to speak .Cheers.
I started at 44 I'm 54 and a brown belt and starting BJJ has had more positive impact on my life than anything I've ever done. If you decide to start embrace the healthy diet and function based workouts and you will feel amazing (on the days that you can actually move) lol!
kaistigerboy that’s awesome to hear man! Do it brother :)
I liked the video and commentary. Big fan here. I earned my blue approximately 2 years ago. I train 2-3 days a week. I recently switched schools due to moving from the Midwest and now I’m on the east coast. I competed 4 times last year. 4 times this year. Grappling industries 4 times and IBJJF once and few local tournaments. I’ sprained my knee at an open mat at my club here in Virginia almost 3 weeks ago. So no training since. My question is how good am I and how can I tell? I racked up 4 golds, silver, and 3 bronze in these last 2 years and I feel like training in the gi maybe stunting my growth because I don’t really train leg locks and hardly ever attend no gi class. Lets say I buy your online material and drill and train like mad. Will my new instructor notice and promote me sooner than later or should I focus on getting better quicker with your advice?
Angelo Espinal my methods of training are a little different! For example you won’t get techniques to drill! What I’ll do is teach you how to change the way you look at jiu jitsu. And understand it on a whole new level. Move away from it being a dance routine and more into an expression of yourself. Where you use problem solving and innovation to build a wealth of knowledge! If that’s what interests you then you should check out the art of learning jiu jitsu at www.kitdaletraining.com
Model vs system